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  1. Luitzen Hietkamp
    November 4, 2011

    You simply failed to take account of the fact that not only the value of x changes, but also the size of the set itself, which you didn’t. In reaction to the second reply:

    x² = xW(x)+xF(x) Why not just write x² = xW(x) = x*x ? Then you can differentiate this by parts as well.

    And why isn’t multiplication repeated addition? The blog only says it isn’t, without explaining why. As far as I know, multiplication is repeated addition. This fact is very useful if you need to multiply long numbers, like 1,345,843 *3,464,901, in your head or with paper.

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  2. Gaurav Tiwari
    November 4, 2011

    Hi! Thanks for your comment. $ x^2 =x+x+x+\ldots +x$ is true, if and only if x is a positive integer.
    But x*x is as same as:
    x*x =x*([x]+{x})
    where [x] is integer part of x and {x} is fractional part of x. This post is very old and it need to be edited since I had used W(x) and F(x) for [x] and {x} respectively.

    Regarding, multiplication is not repeated addition: How can you explain— $ {5.74}^2$, or $ {-4}^2$ as addition? One can’t add any number fractional number or negative number of times.

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    • j
      April 2, 2012

      4^2 = 4 * 4 = 4 + 4 + 4 + 4

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      • Gaurav Tiwari
        April 2, 2012

        $4$ is a fixed positive integer. You can add things upto 4 times, but not all $ x \in \mathbb{R}$. Differentiation, here, is defined on real numbers.

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  3. Raja
    December 13, 2013

    Its obvious..The fault is in the beginning itself..Why you are making very absurd assumption.
    You cannot write $x^2=x+x+x+\ldots$, but you can write $x^2=x+x$.
    How can you say
    “However, suppose we write $x^2$ as the sum of x ‘s written up x times..” If it your assumption, then it is not $x^2$..actually it is for $x^x$.
    Got it!

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    • Gaurav Tiwari
      December 13, 2013

      Hmmm. Weird comment. $x+x$ is $2x$ not $x^2$.
      And, $x^x$ means $x$ multiplied to itself $x$ number of times.

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  4. Raja
    December 13, 2013

    I think better change to:
    Derivative of x squared is 2 ? Where is the fallacy?
    Yes x^x means x multiplied to itself x number of times
    and x^2 means x multiplied to itself, i.e x times x or X x X.
    But you say x^2 means x multiplied to itself x number of times.

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    • Gaurav Tiwari
      December 13, 2013

      No. I have written, $x^2$ as the sum of x‘s written up x-times, not that

      x^2 means x multiplied to itself x number of times

      .
      Please read the article once again and http://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/devlin_01_11.html <– this one too.

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    • Ankur
      July 15, 2014

      do u even know the ‘M’ of mathematics? :p

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